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From Boardrooms to Bedrooms

Republised by The Insurance Times

November 2023

Continued…

My interview with Alison Taylor: “Humans need hearts to survive, but don’t exist solely to act as vehicles for their beating hearts”.

Alison Taylor is a clinical associate professor at NYU Stern School of Business, and the executive director at Ethical Systems. Her previous work experience includes being a Managing Director at non-profit business network BSR and a Senior Managing Director at Control Risks. She holds advisory roles at VentureESG, sustainability non-profit BSR, Pictet Group, and Zai Lab, and is a member of the World Economic Forum Global Future Council on Good Governance.

She has expertise in strategy, sustainability, political and social risk, culture and behavior, human rights, ethics and compliance, stakeholder engagement, anti-corruption and professional responsibility. Her book Higher Ground: How Business Can do the Right Thing in a Turbulent World will be published by Harvard Business Review Press in February 2024. 

Alison received her Bachelor of Arts in Modern History from Balliol College, Oxford University, her MA in International Relations from the University of Chicago, and MA in Organizational Psychology from Columbia University.

Praveen Gupta: “Corporate America is finding itself trapped between society’s progressive impulses, and the conservative backlash”?

Alison Taylor: This is certainly true. But I think it’s been a long time since the world saw America as a role model. Lots of people still want to live here, for the economic opportunity and dynamism. But whether it is guns or reproductive rights, America has plenty of issues that make it a poor role model.

PG: What do you see in the crystal ball?

AT: Gosh I have no idea. The next election is terrifying. Clearly we are past the era of globalization and in a much more fragmented, contentious, fraught period where commitments to democracy seem increasingly fragile

PG: Why is delivering on both profit and purpose getting increasingly complex?

AT: I think it’s always been complex. One challenge is that no one agrees on what “purpose” actually is. Another is that doing the right thing, or even just focusing on environmental and social issues, is sometimes profitable, sometimes not. Timeframes, and investing for the long term in an unpredictable world, further complicate things. A final problem is that corporate value itself has become more intangible and perception based. It has reached the stage where we can’t even agree on terminology, let alone discuss the actual problems.

Recruiters want more international backgrounds, more career variety, more sustainability knowledge, better social skills, humility, and understanding of influence, not just barking orders from the top. 

PG: A quieter leadership cohort in favor of collaboration and humility remains a minority vis-à-vis Silicon Valley god/emperor model?

AT: One point a smart reader of my upcoming book (see here for more details: https://www.amazon.com/Higher-Ground-Business-Right-Turbulent-ebook/dp/B0BTMRCCC1) made is that often this new generation of quieter leaders are just fronts for the existing founders and shareholders, who are now all neatly moving themselves into “executive chair” roles. But, notwithstanding that, there is recruitment data showing that what we are looking for in senior leaders is changing. Recruiters want more international backgrounds, more career variety, more sustainability knowledge, better social skills, humility, and understanding of influence, not just barking orders from the top. 

PG: Milton Friedman’s compelling case for maximizing profit still prevails. Shouldn’t business schools be addressing this?

AT: I am not sure I agree. Businesses must make a profit to survive. Very few of the younger students I teach think that business exists solely to make a profit. To borrow a line from my book, humans need hearts to survive, but don’t exist solely to act as vehicles for their beating hearts. There is an expectation that business should treat workers properly and clean up its own mess. And interestingly, that position is not particularly partisan.

Many of the most powerful faculty continue to approach these questions in a way that might be argued is anachronistic.

On business schools, many of the most powerful faculty continue to approach these questions in a way that might be argued is anachronistic. I think the important thing is to not insist that professors parrot a certain worldview, but to open up the space for scrutiny and debate. We can disagree and debate ideas, that’s what a university is for.

PG: Wasn’t it Friedman who unleashed forces of corporate greed leading us down the path of Climate Breakdown?

AT: The problem is not so much Friedman but how he has been interpreted. Perhaps he was right IF there is a clean and clear line between business and politics. There isn’t.

PG: Does it make sense to continue treating branding, culture, sustainability, risk, and ethics as separate disciplines?

AT: My book is about why it does not.

PG: Moreover, performance matrices have little room for ethics?

AT: Some performance matrices consider not just whether a target was achieved, but how it was achieved. High performing assholes are the big vulnerability in a lot of organizations, not least because this encourages kick down/kiss up behavior.

In my book I recommend grounding a corporation’s ethical commitments in its impact on human beings.

PG: A deep global hunger for inspirational leadership prevails. Why are business schools unable to address the scarcity in moral leadership?

AT: I don’t know if business schools exist to teach moral leadership, and at least at Stern, there is quite a bit of focus on helping students to be better, more effective and ethical leaders. 

One issue that is frequently raised is that personal and organizational ethics are not the same thing, and we are in a highly contentious and polarized era. In my book I recommend grounding a corporation’s ethical commitments in its impact on human beings.

Exercise practical curiosity about this, treat people with dignity and respect, make your best possible effort to do no harm and clean up your own mess. Interestingly, none of this is partisan and all of it is in line with how society would like business to behave!

PG:  It’s been a real privilege tracking the evolution of your book and I am amazed how you draw in all the rapid-fire unravelling. Truly compelling. My best wishes for the upcoming launch, Alison!

Climate Courage: Why equality is critical

In conversation with the brilliant Andrea Edwards

November 2, 2023

“Not all tech is InsurTech”

October 30, 2023

Illuminem.com

https://illuminem.com/illuminemvoices/not-all-tech-is-insurtech

My Op-Ed for illuminem, originally published by the Chartered Insurance Institute Journal.

Allow me to start with this post by eminent ethics professor and author Guido Palazzohttps://lnkd.in/dxcbEJPw.

“A Swiss startup that developed a software solution that helps to increase honesty in business transactions accuses Zurich Insurance to have stolen their idea and obviously they can provide the evidence”.

If this story had broken a couple of weeks ahead – it would have given a twist to my tale. Even though this does not have a US origin. My focus being some assorted tech related stories from several covered by American media – during past 3 months – demonstrate how technology interfaces with diverse aspects of daily life. And insurance in turn intersects with them.

The implications go far beyond world of insurance. While InsurTech draws much attention, there is so much else that also merits it if we must expeditiously address the bigger world of #ESG.

Needless to mention that all forms of interface demand heightened #stewardship from insurers. Be that as carriers, risk managers or investors.

“You cannot stay on the summit forever”…

Who but Lahkpa Sherpa knows it best.

Speeding past Ashford – located on the north side of the Nisqually River and the main access road to Paradise in Mount Rainier National Park – you just might miss out on the low profile ‘Wild Berry Restaurant’. Wishing for a “Taste of Two Worlds”? This is where you ought to stop by. It serves both traditional American Mountain Menu as well as authentic Sherpa-Himalayan food from Nepal.

What’s really special about this place is the owner – an iconic mountaineer who has made it his abode. Mount Rainier, a glacieated and active volcano in Washington state, may be just half way the Everest, but the region has been a nurturing ground for mountaineers aspiring to scale them all.

What better proof than this testimony inside the forest at Ashford?

A view from ‘Paradise’ (base camp): Mount Rainier, 14408 feet in altitude, is the highest peak in the Cascade Range. It is the heart of Mount Rainier National Park.

Splash of colours just ahead of the weather conditions become challenging.

The legend

Five sisters of Orting, as the Puyallup legend goes – were transformed into five mountains by Doquebuth, the changer. One of them was called Takkobad – that is Mount Rainier. Doquebuth said to Takkobad, “You will take care of the Sound country. You will supply water. You will be useful in that way.”

Mount Rainier is one of the snowiest places in the United States. Thanks to 645 inches of annual snow that it receives, Takkobad generally fulfills Doquebuth’s wish.

Wild Berry opens from May to mid-October and does not operate on Tuesdays!

The legendary Sherpa

Born in Nepal, Lhakpa Gelu is best known for holding a world record for the fastest ascent of Mount Everest in 10 hours 56 minutes and 46 seconds. Gelu’s record breaking trip was his tenth to the Everest summit. He has scaled it fifteen times (both North Ridge and South East Ridge).

Like an invisible character, he moves between the kitchen and the tables keeping a watchful eye in a supporting role. He demands no attention and perhaps much of the time most customers are not even aware of his presence amidst them. Just as he ascends the summits without fanfare, and descends. Sees it no longer but has seen it all. Before soon gets to see them yet again.

Other than the Everest, he has also been atop Mt. Denali, Mt. Ama Dablam, Mt. Cho Oyu, Mt. Baruntse, Mt. Aconcagua and Mt. Rainier. For sure, the most accomplished Sherpa mountaineer.

The lure for the Sherpa!,,,

Yes, you cannot stay on the summit forever. But you could re-visit and pursue new ones, Lhakpa Gelu way, too. From the road to picturesque Paradise.

Not all tech is InsurTech

The Journal, Chartered Insurance Institute

October 23, 2023

https://thejournal.cii.co.uk/2023/10/23/current-climate

Not all tech that insurers interface with is #Insurtech. However, growing ESG demands and the resulting responsibilities demand heightened stewardship from insurers. Be that as insurers, risk managers or investors.

In conversation with Mark Trexler: “Climate change poses the ultimate game theory problem, in which countries have all sorts of incentives to act or not to act…”.

Illuminem.com

October 18, 2023

https://illuminem.com/illuminemvoices/an-interview-with-mark-trexler-climate-change-poses-the-ultimate-game-theory-problem-in-which-countries-have-all-sorts-of-incentives-to-act-or-not-to-act

Mark Trexler is one of the most astute minds in Climate space. Here are some nuggets that I picked from our stimulating conversation:

To substantially accelerate the #transition to a low carbon economy requires the kinds of policy decision making and leadership that are politically very difficult to deliver.

The only way to actually #mitigate climate change reliably and quickly, assuming that’s possible to begin with, is through public policy.

In effect you would be internalizing the #externality that greenhouse gases are creating in terms of future damage.

Studies suggest that 80% of the market might be made-up of #fakeoffsets.

If offset markets continue to be dominated by fake offsets, then I think one can argue that they are little more than a distraction.

To assume that we’ll simply use markets to tackle climate change is something that we should approach skeptically.

Mark cautions: Observers often draw an analogy between phasing out #CFCs and phasing out greenhouse gases or GHGs. But phasing out #GHGs, he says, is far more complicated then phasing out CFCs, and that’s part of what makes climate change a wicked problem.

Please read on…

“From boardrooms to bedrooms”

Republished by Illuminem.com

October 12, 2023

https://illuminem.com/illuminemvoices/from-boardrooms-to-bedrooms

Glad that Illuminem picked this story. It recently appeared in the Chartered Insurance Institute’s Journal. Not only is the climate crisis breaking the insurance silo; telling us how the cost of insurance is bound to escalate to a point where things might become uninsurable. Without any insurance the assets may become worthless. It is also telling us not to mindlessly create assets in high risk prone geographies by disregarding adaptation and resilience. That is just part of the story.

During the 2008 housing market crash, subprime mortgages were one of the primary causes of the crisis. Many homeowners who had taken out subprime mortgages were unable to keep up with their payments, leading to a wave of foreclosures. AIG nearly went bust for adventurism with the home portfolio. Regulators were caught napping.

Homes are back at the centre stage. Insurers are not only risk managers and carriers, they are also investors. By investing in fossil fuel segment they are like hospitals selling cigarettes, as Peter Bosshard puts it. Wildfires, windstorms, floods and sea level rise have just about begun to rattle the American homeowners. The debate thereby has moved from boardrooms to bedrooms. It will come back to boardrooms as more and more assets become stranded.

As the climate insurance bubble builds up, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has sounded the alarm. She believes it is necessary for the Financial Stability Oversight Council (FSOC) to examine how these shifts may affect the wider financial system. For one, insurers surely need to urgently stop behaving in their oxymoronish ways. The rest of the world has a lot to learn from what ails the US of A, before it’s too late.

My interview with Mark Trexler: “Climate change poses the ultimate game theory problem, in which countries have all sorts of incentives to act or not to act…”.

Dr. Mark C. Trexler directs the Climatographers’ work on climate risk knowledge management.  He was previously Director of Climate Risk for DNV based in Oslo, Norway, and prior to that directed Global Consulting Services for EcoSecurities. His work on climate change dates back to the World Resources Institute (1988-1991), and as President of Trexler Climate + Energy Services (TC+ES) from 1991 to 2007. TC+ES was the first consulting firm in the United States to specialize in business climate change risk management.

In addition to private-sector clients around the world, Mark has worked with national and international clients including The Nature Conservancy, the United Nations Development Programme, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, and the Global Environment Facility. 

Mark is widely published on the technical and policy issues relating to climate change mitigation and carbon markets, has served as a Lead Author for the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), and is a member of the editorial board of Mitigation and Adaptation Strategies, a leading climate journal.  Mark’s graduate degrees are from UC Berkeley, he has spent almost 10 years living abroad, and speaks five languages.

Praveen Gupta:  Why do you say “Climate change is a “wicked” problem, and the last 30 years suggest we may not be able to solve it”?

Mark Trexler: “Wicked problems” constitute a class of problems that are particularly hard to solve, in part because they have no obvious or single so with respect to the ozone hole as an environmental problem, for example, all countries had to do was mandate the phasing out of a particular class of refrigeration chemicals, and then let the market figure out how to replace those chemicals with chemicals that would not damage the ozone layer. Observers often draw an analogy between phasing out CFCs and phasing out greenhouse gases or GHGs. But phasing out GHG’s is far far more complicated then phasing out CFCs, and that’s part of what makes climate change a wicked problem. Just think about some of the characteristics of the problem:

  • The countries that have primarily contributed to the problem are not the countries that will suffer the most from climate change.
  • Our political systems are set up to tackle short term problems, and politicians have very few incentives to tackle longer term problems, particularly if they involve upfront costs or disruptions.
  • Industrialized countries owe their prosperity to the use of fossil fuels, which constitute an almost perfect way of storing and transporting energy, and now we are saying those countries need to rapidly phase out their use of fossil fuels.
  • There are many legitimate uncertainties when it comes to the future of climate change, and how we might effectively tackle climate change, and those uncertainties complicate public and policy decision making.

When you combine these and many other aspects of the climate change problem, it starts to become quite difficult to figure out how to thread the needle in solving the problem. One could certainly say that technological innovation over time will lead to a low carbon economy, and that is most likely true and a process that is already underway, but it will not happen in time to avoid potentially catastrophic climate change. That is really the dilemma here.

That to substantially accelerate the transition to a low carbon economy requires the kinds of policy decision making and leadership that are politically very difficult to deliver.

That to substantially accelerate the transition to a low carbon economy requires the kinds of policy decision making and leadership that are politically very difficult to deliver, as we have seen particularly in the United States. But even internationally, climate change poses the ultimate game theory problem, in which countries have all sorts of incentives to act or not to act based on their perceived self-interest. And when you’re dealing with a very large international community that perceives very different self interests, how do you generate the collective action that would tackle climate change in the relevant time frames, which at this point one can count in decades.

PG: Why must companies recognize climate change as a systemic risk? 

MT: there are two ways to think about the relationship of the business community to climate change. First as a business risk and or opportunity that companies should treat like they would any other business risk or opportunity. Second as a societal problem that companies have an obligation to step in to try and solve, in effect proxying for the missing societal decision making.

In recent years, as the prospect of successful policy making to tackle climate change has declined in many parts of the world, the idea that companies should step up and tackle the problem has grown. I personally don’t see how that can actually work, since at the end of the day companies are not responsible to the general public and to voters, they are responsible to shareholders and to stakeholders.

It is easy to say that we have transitioned from a shareholder business model to a more public interest business model, but I’m skeptical. That doesn’t mean there is not a rationale for companies to try and tackle climate change. After all climate change does pose risks for many companies. The problem is that companies tend to think over very short periods of time, while climate change is occurring over much longer periods of time.

One way of seeing that is that companies generally use an economic discount rate of 10 to 15%, which in effect means that anything happening more than a decade into the future just does not matter to business decision making. But is there a category of climate risks that could manifest during periods of time that are relevant to business decision making? And the most obvious of these is systemic risk. For example we could see a climate change induced global food shock happen at anytime, that throws the world into political turmoil and economic recession, creating enormous business disruptions and risks.

And the only way to actually mitigate climate change reliably and quickly, assuming that’s possible to begin with, is through public policy.

There are many potential systemic risk issues associated with climate change, from environmental migrants to global conflict. Systemic risks are not something that individual businesses are generally able to manage or hedge against on their own. At the end of the day, the only way to really manage the larger business risks of climate change is to actually mitigate climate change. And the only way to actually mitigate climate change reliably and quickly, assuming that’s possible to begin with, is through public policy. Which means that companies should be giving a lot more attention to their policy footprint than they are today, when they’re focusing almost entirely on their carbon footprint.

When I co-authored the first textbook on business climate risk in 2011, I suggested that successful climate risk management on the part of business should be thought of primarily in terms of business pushing for the public policies like carbon pricing that would actually help solve the problem. But policy advocacy is still not a significant part of most companies approach to climate change. And this isn’t just the fault of companies; most observers and NGO’s are telling companies that their primary focus should be to reduce their emissions, and to get to net zero, as if that was going to solve climate change. And while if every company in the world did go to net zero it would obviously have a big impact on climate change. There is no prospect for translating individual company behaviors into that kind of a collective outcome.

PG: What ought to be the key concerns w.r.t carbon pricing, carbon offsets and carbon markets?

MT:  I got my start in the topic of climate change 35 years ago when I was hired by the world resources institute in Washington DC to work on the first carbon offset project. At the time, carbon offsets were a voluntary initiative, no one was really talking about mandatory climate policies, And I think it’s safe to say that most people saw carbon offsets as an interim measure that encouraged companies to acknowledge climate change in the first place, and to begin to take some steps against climate change that would not be overly costly.

Over time however and as public policy has failed to materialize particularly in the United states, the idea of carbon markets and even voluntary carbon markets playing a critical role in tackling climate change has taken hold. In recent years, leading observers have suggested that the voluntary carbon market needs to expand 100-fold in order to substitute for public policy and successfully tackle climate change.

“In effect you would be internalizing the externality that greenhouse gases are creating in terms of future damage.

Carbon markets are one way to put a price on carbon emissions, which most economists would suggest is the best way to tackle climate change. In effect you would be internalizing the externality that greenhouse gases are creating in terms of future damage. The question becomes what price do you put on carbon that would effectively internalize that externality? Most economic studies suggest, for example, that the social cost of carbon – a measure of the economic damage associated with emitting each ton of CO2 equivalent – is probably somewhere between $50 and $500. 

But efforts to put an official price on carbon at such a level has been politically very unpopular except in a few circumstances. Some Nordic countries have had a significant price on carbon for quite a few years, and very recently the European emissions trading system has seen its price of carbon rise up to something close to $100 a ton, but generally speaking carbon is priced far below these levels particularly in the case of market mechanisms like carbon offsets.

PG: So what challenge does that pose?

MT: In fact, the average price of a carbon offset being traded even today is probably less than $5, and in many cases it’s less than two or three dollars. Now if one could reliably assume that for that little money one could actually avoid the emission of a ton of CO2, or permanently remove an additional ton of CO2 from the atmosphere, then the gap between the price of carbon offsets and the social cost of carbon might not be a big problem. But the reality is that one cannot successfully avoid large scale emissions for less than $5 per ton or successfully remove large quantities of CO2 from the atmosphere for less than $5 per ton.

“If you think of these as fake offsets, studies suggest that 80% of the market might be made-up of fake offsets.

Study after study has pointed out that a large fraction of carbon offsets are not playing the role that would be expected of a successful carbon offset. They represent tons that would never have been emitted anyway, as well as tons that would have been removed from the atmosphere anyway, with or without the existence of a carbon market. If you think of these as fake offsets, studies suggest that 80% of the market might be made-up of fake offsets. And fake offsets can be very inexpensively brought to market since you don’t actually have to do anything to create them. So that has really helped to depress the overall price of carbon offsets, which serves the interests of companies and organizations who are primarily looking for a low-cost alternative to reducing their emissions, but it does not serve the interests of climate change mitigation.

And that is a fundamental aspect of the problem that we’ve seen with carbon offsets. Carbon offsets are being used to advance two objectives. First, reducing the costs of reducing a company’s emissions. And second, mitigating climate change.  The problem is that you cannot maximize both of these objectives at the same time. The more you focus on reducing costs, the morethe environmental integrity of the market is going to suffer.

The more you focus on environmental integrity, the more expensive the market is going to be for carbon offsets. At the end of the day someone has to balance these two objectives, and decide how we’re going to structure the market. Are we more concerned about cost effectiveness or about environmental integrity?  The answer to that question has huge implications for how we design carbon offset markets. 

Recognizing that offset markets can never be perfect, the question becomes how imperfect should we allow them to be? Are we willing to accept 5% fake offsets, 10% fake offsets, 20% fake offsets? Surely the answer cannot be 80% fake offsets, as many studies continue to suggest is the actual case.

And if offset markets continue to be dominated by fake offsets, then I think one can argue that they are little more than a distraction.

Redesigning the offset market to go from 80% fake offsets to 20% fake offsets would be difficult, and would involve substantial changes to what can qualify as a carbon offset. But there has been very little appetite within carbon offset markets and the carbon offset industry to undertake this kind of fundamental redesign that starts from the first principles of what we are expecting this market to accomplish. And if offset markets continue to be dominated by fake offsets, then I think one can argue that they are little more than a distraction.

I’m not sure I would say that they are a fig leaf for the fossil fuel industry, they are a fig leaf for societies inability overall to actually tackle climate change. The same challenges that have led to a lack of public policy in this area, are leading to a lack of environmental integrity in carbon offset markets. It is in effect the same problem.

PG: Whether addressing Climate Crisis can be left to market mechanism? 

MT: in recent years we do seem to have decided that markets are the only way to tackle problems. This is a relatively recent development, and has been encouraged by decades of organized efforts to promote the role of the market over public policies and regulation for tackling social problems. There is no question that one could tackle the climate crisis through markets. For example, one could have designed an international agreement focused on coordinating the pricing of carbon around the world to achieve the necessary reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. One could impose a carbon tax that would have the result of radically reducing greenhouse gas emissions, either very quickly or over time.

The problem is that in designing most of the market mechanisms that are out there, with carbon offsets being an example, the rules get “gamed” in such a way that the market does not achieve its original objective.  I made the point at a climate change conference of the parties (COP) many years ago in a talk that I was giving there, that policymakers always forget that there are 1000 very smart people in the room next door just waiting to figure out how to game whatever the rules are that the policymakers come up with. Unless policymakers very actively think about the problem of gaming, and close the loopholes that would allow such gaming to occur, then the objectives of the policy are probably not going to be met.

“So to assume that we’ll simply use markets to tackle climate change is something that we should approach skeptically.

So the question really isn’t can we leave the climate crisis to market mechanisms? The question is, can we implement market mechanisms in a way that would successfully tackle the climate crisis? The answer so far has pretty clearly been a “no.” Which means that if we are going to radically accelerate a low carbon transition, it is going to require much more direct policy intervention and rules. Einstein has a great quote to the effect that you cannot solve a problem with the tools that led to the problem in the first place. And markets have certainly been a big contributing factor to climate change. So to assume that we’ll simply use markets to tackle climate change is something that we should approach skeptically.

PG: With the dissolution of Net-Zero Insurance Alliance what happens to the measurement and disclosure of GHG emissions associated to insurance underwriting portfolios?

MT: The Net-Zero Insurance Alliance is one of many business collaboratives with the stated goal of helping to tackle climate change. And many of these do focus on carbon footprints. For example, I recently read a white paper on how law firms should be calculating the carbon footprint of their legal advice. This is somewhat analogous to the idea of calculating the carbon footprint of an insurance underwriting portfolio.

You may have heard that last year the inventor of the doodle (labradoole among many others) apologized to humanity for that invention. I sometimes wonder whether those of us originally involved with the concept of carbon footprinting should apologize to humanity for that invention. Because there is a far greater emphasis on carbon footprinting today than is warranted by the impact of such footprinting on carbon emissions at the corporate or global level. There is this idea that we “manage what we measure,” And that conversely we don’t manage what we don’t measure. But that is an overly simplistic approach to tackling climate change.

“I’m not quite sure what the goal of such footprinting actually is, and how it is supposed to contribute to the larger goal of climate change mitigation.

If we were to put an effective price on carbon emissions, for example, companies would reduce their emissions without spending a great deal of time on calculating those emissions. And they would focus on their Scope 1 emissions as opposed to their indirect Scope 2 emissions and the vastly more complicated Scope 3 emissions.  It is not at all clear what all of the effort going into Scope 3 emissions calculations around the world is actually going to accomplish. And emissions are a relatively poor proxy for business risk, unlike the relationship of global emissions to global societal climate risk.

There will be no direct correlation between appropriate insurance premiums and the carbon footprints of the companies buying those policies. I would much rather see insurance companies communicate the topic of climate risk much more effectively to governments and to companies, with the goal of promoting the necessary public policies, than to focus on calculating the carbon footprint of their insurance portfolios. I’m not quite sure what the goal of such footprinting actually is, and how it is supposed to contribute to the larger goal of climate change mitigation.

PG: What’s your vision for The Climatographers?

MT: I’ve spent about 35 years working on climate change, and founded the first US based climate risk advisory firm in 1991. Wearing different hats I’ve worked with companies and agencies all over the world on all kinds of climate change issues. I founded the Climatographers in 2012 after being forced out of my last job as part of a merger and acquisition in which my new managers refused to accept me into the organization because I had the title Director of Climate Risk. At the time my wife and I considered what direction we wanted to go in our future work on climate change, and ended up focusing on the intersection between climate risk knowledge management and climate risk business advisory.

Our view is that information exists to influence almost anyone’s thinking on climate change, and in particular business decision makers, but thatpeople rarely see the information that would influence their decision making. That’s why we started building more than a decade ago the Climate Web as a decision support tool for business learning and business risk management around climate change and climate risk. People can access that tool through its standard website at www.theclimateweb.com and the actual Climate Web at www.theclimateweb.org. And we use that tool in helping companies come to grips with climate risk assessment, climate risk disclosure, and much more.

So our vision for the Climatographers is the somewhat quixotic one of trying to turn the almost infinite deluge of climate relevant information today into actionable knowledge that might actually get individuals and companies more focused on doing the things that would really matter for climate change.

That’s also why we’ve launched our Climate Risk School, which is not only focused on business decision makers, but also includes a course on what individuals can do to tackle climate change:  https://climaterisk.getlearnworlds.com/.

PG: Wonderful talking to you, Mark. Many thanks for the fantastic insights. I wish you all the very best for the ongoing evangelizing.

From boardrooms to bedrooms

October 4, 2023

My blog for the Journal of Chartered Insurance Institute

https://thejournal.cii.co.uk/2023/10/04/boardrooms-bedrooms

In this blog for the Chartered Insurance Institute Journal – having followed for the last three months – I explore media coverage on state of insurance of American homes. Floods, wildfires, windstorms – a billion-dollar loss now occurs less than every twenty days – brings home insurance on the frontline of climate crisis.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen sounded the alarm bell: In 2020, she says, just 60% of the $165 billion in total economic losses from climate-related disasters were covered by insurance. She believes it is necessary for the Financial Stability Oversight Council (#FSOC) to examine how these shifts may affect the wider financial system.

What next for nearly 40 million insured homes in America? As more and more of them become uninsurable and/or too expensive to insure – it is increasingly becoming an emotive issue.

#climatecrisis #protectiongap #uninsurable